Haal-e-dil unko sunana tha sunaya na gaya Suman Kalyanur had to remain in the shadows of Lata Mangeshkar because of her uncanny similarity to Lata’s voice. Many of her songs are indistinguishable from Lata’s style, either because she was subconsciously imitating her style or the music directors were viewing her essentially as Lata’s replacement. Yet there are several songs which bear her special imprint. There is one particular song in which she seems to have clearly overshadowed Lata. I am referring to Haal-e-dil unko sunana tha sunaya na gaya from the film Fariyad (1964). Absolutely fascinating.

I have been reading your blog, but this is the first time I am posting my comment. First, my compliments for your excellent blog and bringing alive the music of the golden era which gave us such an unforgettable joy.

Suman Kalyanpur’s Haale dil unko sunana tha sunaya na gaya and Lata’s Haale dil yun unhe sunaya gaya are both incredibly beautiful. Both are among my all time favourites, and I never thought in terms of ranking them. I would say both are brilliantly written by Kedar Sharma and Rajendra Krishna, brilliantly composed by Snehal Bhatkar and Madan Mohan and beautifully sung by Suman and Lata. Thanks a lot for giving the two songs together. Having said that, I must say there is one major omission in your article. Your list does not include Sanwariya re apni Meera ko bhool na jana from the film Aanchal, music by C Ramchandra.

This is easily Suman Kalyanpur’s one of the greatest songs. October 5, 2010 at 4:07 pm. Till now,I had a feeble idea about Suman Kalyanpur Ma’am! Thanks for the incredible information Arvind Sir!

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I am Lata didi’s fan but Suman Kalyanpur has outperformed her in this melodious song. If its a coincidence that both songs are so strikingly similar, then its okay. But if Lata didi had intentionally done this to sate her desire of being the queen of melody, then this time she would have understood that nobody is perfect. Not even she! Finally, there is one singer, who, if Lata didi had not been there in industry for some reasons, whatsoever, would have delivered the pure melody to the golden period of songs. Dharm October 7, 2010 at 12:57 am.

@Dharm: I am gratified that you enjoyed it. I should make it clear again that it was my pure conjecture that Lata sang her Haal-e-dil yun unhe sunaya gaya as a rejoinder to Suman Kalyanpur’s Haal-e-dil unko sunana tha sunaya na gaya. Incidentally both the films, Fariyad and Jahan Ara, are of 1964. My article in no way intends to reduce Lata Mangeshkar. The respect I have for her you can see from my other article ‘Lata Mangeshkar vs Noorjehan’. She would forever remain a class apart. Dharm October 7, 2010 at 8:39 pm.

There is something I want to share with you. Once I came across an article about Suman Kalyanpur. In it,this was disclosed that Suman Kalyanpur sang “AAJA AAYI BAHAR” song of Sadhna Shivdasani ji’s film “Rajkumar”. The song being my soul favourite, persuaded me to search for Suman Kalyanpur Ma’am. Though later,it turned that it was Lata didi’s song! But yesterday I downloaded “Haal e dil” songs and found out that Suman ji and lata didi are both Great.

Have a lovely day Sir! Dharm October 7, 2010 at 8:47 pm.

I really wonder, why people get confused between Lata’s voice and Suman’s voice. They sound similar but there is lot of difference if you carefully listen. I can easily identify suman’s songs (she sung with name suman hemadi and kalyanpur) Lata’s voice is more strong and uniform like printout comming from the printer, whereas Suman’s voice is thin and shivers when she raise her voice; e.g in song ‘Hale dil during raising her voice sunyaa na gyaa. I think only LATA did justice to the Madan mohan compositions and no one else not even Suman. Suman was always second choice if LATA was not available.

If Milk is not available then compromise with butter milk kind of adjustmnets. Chetana p vakade January 4, 2011 at 3:04 pm. I recently read biography of Sumanji and as i discovered the beautiful songs she has sung(which i assumed to be sung by Lataji), I was shocked. Both have the divine touch, but luck has favoured Lataji on the fame and recognition front. Ofcourse, on the personal front, Sumanji has led a very satisfactory family life, is also a wonderful cook, can draw beautiful sketches, does lovely flower arrangements and has never ever complained on the bitter episodes of her singing career. Her Marathi songs also merit the likeness to Lataji.

It is her bad luck that she is referred to as Prati-Lata. She shines in her own light and we ought to acknowledge this fact and give her due credit. Prakash January 11, 2011 at 5:45 pm.

@Prakash I should thank you for mentioning Tum jo aao to pyar aa jaye. Cheat Code Pokemon Version Cristal. Can one ever believe that this song was from a film called Sakhi Robin and composed by someone called Robin Banerji, and enacted on the screen by some actors called Ranjan and Shalini (or Nilofar?).

One very singificant aspect of the golden era is that there are a large number of such unforgettable melodies composed by now forgotten music directors, and in the most vague films with unknown actors. I may some time do a series on such songs. AM February 25, 2011 at 9:47 pm.

Superb article. Painstaking research. A few corrections, though: – Pyase Panchhi had KJAJ’s music, not Hemant Kumar. – Agar Teri Jalwa Numayi is from Beti Bete.

@Prabhu: The title song of Saanjh Aur Savera is sung by Rafi & Asha. In 1980, a movie called Ramu To Deewana Hai was released. Surely it was post-dated as it has a few Mukesh numbers who, by that time, had left us. In this film, there are a couple of Suman Kalyanpur songs, viz. – Ramu To Diwana Hai – Suman Kalyanpur – Tu Sab Se Haseen Hai Dilruba – Mukesh, Suman Kalyanpur I wonder what you guys think of these? Gelcoat Spider Crack Repair more. AM February 25, 2011 at 10:41 pm. During that phase in the 60s when Lata and Rafi were unable to sing together, a lot of duets were recorded pairing Rafi with Suman.

These happen to be the most well-known of all Suman songs. Shankar Jaikishan, who were the reigning kings of film music in that era, used this combo to a great effect. In fact, they not only used Suman with other male singers but composed some rather nice solos for her also. @AM I have to profusely thank you for: i) Pointing out the errors (since corrected) ii) The list of SJ composed songs for Suman Kalyanpur, one of which was particularly enlightening for me.

That was Duniya bananewale kya tere mann mein samayee from Teesri Kasam. The last stanza in the female voice after Mukesh’s full three stanzas was there in the movie, but perhaps not released on records – one always heard it as a Mukesh solo. I never gave a thought who would be the singer, perhaps taking for granted that it would be Lata Mangeshkar. This is quite interesting, given that the film also had great solos by Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle. Dr anand dixit April 14, 2011 at 12:54 pm. @KR Vaishampayan Welcome to my blog.

Lata Mangeshkar is incomparable and a class apart. No question about that. However, I found Haal-e-dil sung by Suman Kalyanpur and Lata Mangeshkar, with some variation, quite interesting. Hence this article. You have mentioned two great songs and my special favourites. Saath ho tum aur raat jawan is from (1961), lyrics Shailendra and music by Suhrid Kar.

It is a beautiful duet by Mukesh and Asha Bhosle. They have sung some heavenly duets, you might remeber Humse hoti mohabbat jo tumko from Mohabbat Isko Kahte Hain (1965) composed by Khayyam, and the title song from Wo subah kabhi to ayegi, again unmistakably Khayyam. Suhrid Kar seems to be a very rare composer.

Off hand I can not recall his any other movie. Phir aane laga yaa wohi pyar ka mausam. I think you mean this song. This is from the film Ye Dil Kisko Dun (1963), composed by Iqbal Qureshi. Iqbal Qureshi is another underrated composer who gave terrific music in a number of films, but in the overcrowded talent scene of the golden era, he remained confined to B-grade movies. When I hear them I feel like doing a series on such forgotten composers who gave unforgettable melodies.

Bharat dhule July 6, 2011 at 11:31 pm. Salute to you sir. I am a fan of Suman Kalyanpur and I was trying to collect her songs but here you have provided a treasure of her gems. Not only that but also the other related informations and perfact comments on it. Also I fully agree with your comments that Suman Kalyanpur outshines Lata Mangeshkar with Haal-e-dil unko sunana tha sunaya na gaya.

It is the fact that Sumanji didn’t get the place what she deserve and that is the great loss of the music and Music lovers. Ajay September 13, 2011 at 8:36 am. Guys please dont mistake me, little bit of similarities are there between lataji and sumanji but at the same time a lot of difference found between their voices, whenever i hear the song of sumanji i can easily make out its her and not lataji, the difference is when she raises her voice and goes for a higher pitch, her voice gets shivering and u will feel some sought of discrepancy, and latajis voice its like a perfect tuning and pitch.

Please listen carefully both voices and u can justify it. September 14, 2011 at 1:04 pm. @Ajay Prakash earlier mentioned about the lovely duet Tum jo aao to pyar aa jaye (comment #20). Fortunately its video is also available.

Here it is: Tum jo aao to pyar aa jaye by Manna Dey and Suman Kalyanpur from Sakhi Robin, music Robin Banerji I do not know how Na jane kahan tum the got left out. It is a major omission. Thanks for poiting it out. Here is the song: Na jane kahan tum the by Manna Dey and Suman Kalyanpur from Zindagi Aur Khwab, music by Dattaram shubhalaxmi khot vaidya January 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm.

About mid-60s for a few years, when you see SJ promoting Sharda ( Titli udi ud jo chali) etc. And you also see more Rafi-Suman Kalyanpur duets. But I think the break was not absolute. Even during the period of the said rift, you do get Rafi-Lata duets. The rift is said to be because Lata Mangeshkar wanted Rafi’s support on the issue of singers also getting some share of royalty from the record companies. A simple and contented person that Rafi was, he had no desire for this fight. His view was that once a singer has been paid for his singing, that should be the end of the matter.

February 9, 2012 at 10:53 am. @bhagwan thavrani: This is the first time I am hearing these songs, and I have fallen in love with Nigahein na phero, and Suman Klayanpur.

This song should rate among her best, I am surprised why it has remained hidden. This also has a Rafi version. But I find Suman version better, which is an exception to my rule about. The only reason I could think of its obscurity is its uncanny similarity to Maine chand aur sitaron ki tamannna ki thi. But a great song all the same. Dulal Sen is also new to me.

Was he ever assistant of N Datta? Nigahen na phero by Suman Kalyanpur/Rafi from Black Prince Padmanabh K. Joshi March 1, 2012 at 10:45 am.

@ AK & Bhagvan Thavrani The book SUMAN SUGANDH by Smt. Mangala Khadilkar is in Marathi It’s Navchaitanya Publications. Smt Khadilkar’s Contact Nos. 26372166 / Her E-mail – I am mentioning some of her famous songs here.

Na jane kaha tum the na jane kaha hum the (jindgi aur khwab) 2.na tum hame jano na hum tumhe jane (BAAT EK RAATKI) 3.tumne pukara aur hum chale aaye (RAJKUMAR) 4. Aise to na dekho ki bahak jaye kahi hum (BHEEGI RAAT) 5.na na karte pyar tumhise kar baithe (JAB JAB PHUL KHILE) 6. Mere mehbbob na ja aajki raat na ja (NOOR MAHAL) 7.dilne phir yaad kiya (DILNE PHIR YAAD KIYA) 8.

Rahe na rahe hum mahka karenge (MAMTA) 9.ha maine bhi pyar kiya pyarse kab (BUND JO BAN GAYEE MOTI) 10.man mera tuzko mange dur dur tu bhage (PARAS) 11. Panime jale mera gora badan panime (MUNIMJI) 12. Barkha bairan jara tham ke barso (SABAK) 13. Meri kali kalutike nakhare bade (APNE RANG HAJAR) 14. Allah karam karna maulah tu raham karna (DADA) 15. Din ho ya raat hum rahe tere sath yeh hamari merji (Ms.

Baad Muddatke Yeh Ghadi Aayee (JAHA AARA) Niraj Sandhiv March 10, 2012 at 5:20 am. Zara Thaher Jaao – Khuda Kasam 2. Dil Ki Kitab Kori Hai – Yaar Mera 3. Narazagi yeh Aap Ki – Unees Bees 4. Hum Ne Mana hupe Sajan – Dada 6. Raat Suhaani Jaag Rahi Hay – Jigri Dost 7. Yoonhi Dil Ne Chaha Tha Rona Rulana – Dil Hi Toh Hai 8.

Chura Le Na Tumko Yeh Mausam Suhana – Dil Hi Toh Hai 9. Mumkin Hay Naiyya Se Patwar Cheen Le Koi – Yadon Ki Zanjeer 10. Chale Ja Chale Ja Chale Ja – Jahan Pyar Mile 11. Itna Hai Tumse Pyar Mujjhe – Suraj 12.

Mera Pyar Bhi Tu Hai – Saathi dr chel March 26, 2012 at 3:47 am. NO COMPARISON!! IVE LIVED TO LISTEN INDIAN FILM N NON FILM MUSIC FR THE FORTIES FIFTIES SIXTIES AND UP TO THE PRESENT!! Lataji’s has stood the test of time!!

She has been the first choice for all music directors except op nayyar! Again op nayyar got the contract for the second and third rate films only!! He gave SK a break when he fell out with asha but he soon dropped SK!! When lataji was riding high with laxmikant pyarelal, Shankar Jaikishan did give SK several lata style songs but they too returned to lataji eventually in the 70s! Even RD Burman gave the cream of his compositions to Lataji!

That in itself tells volumes!! Suman Kalyanpur got her fair share as the singer of 3rd choice! Even today Lataji is a magnet to the producers and music directors of the north n south!! There are no queues for SK!! Sk got a break with a few songs here n there only! No big banners or music directors would take the risk of Sk for all the songs in their films DHANANJOY DAS March 27, 2012 at 8:39 am.

No question or doubt about Lataji’s talent and that most of the music directors gave most of the songs to Lataji. Does this mean Suman Kalyanpurji was in any ways inferior to Lataji. People say, Lataji did not allow music directors to take Sumanji.Not only Sumanji was a victim – there were many more budding/ established good singers who could not rise / come into limelight because of Lataji and those music directors who were scared to take any singers other than Lataji.This was utterly UNFAIR.

See how many younger singers are doing fantastically well. If you hear old songs of Lataji recently sung by SHREYA GHOSAL( and some other singers), you may not find any difference in quality of voice OR RATHER appreciate that Shreya ‘s voice is equally good if not better. There were and are many such singers in India equally good or may be even better than Lataji. I say this with great respect to Lataji.

Please note I have no intention to belittle or disrespect Lataji. She is great and will always remain in our heart as QUEEN of melody.WAQT WAQT KI BAAT HAI. What injustice was done in the past towards the younger singers can not be repaired.

This was an irreparable loss to the music industry and music lovers. M.D.Bhasin March 29, 2012 at 1:07 am. Dear Sir, You all will excuse me for what I have to unveil, to do justice with this debate. I keep side with M.

Bhasin Saheb, and agree with him that “Lata Is Lata”, none is near her, whatever be her way to remain in limelight. I consider this to be my fortune that I find her singing still, may not be as melodious.

It was in 1960′ that Lata Dee had some serious differences with Rafi Saheb, overthe issue of sharing of Royalty conceded by the film producers to the music composers. Lata Dee wanted Rafi Saheb to support her to get her (the singers) one-half of the amount of the royalty. Rafi Saheb believed that a playback singer’s claim on the filmmaker ended with the payment of the agreed fee for the song. During the recording of “tasviir terii dil me.n” (Maya, 1961), Lata ji argued with Rafi Saheb over a certain passage of the song. Rafi Saheb felt belittled, as Music Director Salil Chowdhury ji sided with Lata ji. The situation worsened when Lata ji declared that she would no longer sing with Rafi Saheb.

Rafi Saheb stated that he was only as keen to sing with Lata ji as she was with him. Later, at the insistence of S. Burman Da, the two decided to reconcile and started singing duets. Personal level differences still continued. I may be excused to mention here that it was because of this incident that Suman ji was able to sing duets with Rafi Saheb, that you may say are memorable (or whatever qualification you attach). While I am satisfied with the melody of the songs, I wish to cry for what could have the beauty/melody of the songs had tese been sung by Lata Dee.

I beseech forgiveness for making this special remarks that this the strict musical restriction imposed by the music composers that make a song memorable. Singers are numerous, but the decision, who will sing and how, makes the whole difference. The same song when performed on stage by any singer (be it Lata Dee or Rafi Saheb) without the composer’s ‘Bandhish’ could not result in so powerful melody, even though the it accompanies similar music. The music lovers can never estimate the loss that they have suffered for this controversy.

To conclude, I feel highly indebted to all those composers (the list is too long) for taking Lata Dee for singing songs (Solo’s or duets with Rafi Saheb, Manna Daa especially) composed by them to let me submerge into the ocean of melody. S.V.Murthy July 4, 2012 at 11:29 pm.

I THINK “SUMAN JI” (KALYANPUR) IS TRULY A LEGEND, I JST LUV HER VOICE QUALITY SHE HAD, HER VOICE HITS MY HEART & MIND ALL THE TIME WHENEVER I HEAR HER LOVELY SWEET MELODIES. “LATA JI” IS ALL A LEGEND BUT “SUMAN JI” SOME HOW WAS BIT NEGLECTED IN THOSE DAYS EXCEPT FOR FEW OR ELSE SHE WOULD HAVE THE BEST FEMALE SINGER. I REALLY FEEL VRY SORRY FOR HER, NEVER MIND SHE HAS SHOWN THE WORLD WITH HER SWEET BEAUTIFUL VOICE THAT SHE COULD HV ALSO BECOME MORE POPULAR AND WOULD HV SUNG MORE THAN WHAT “LATA JI” HAS SUNG. S.V.Murthy July 4, 2012 at 11:33 pm.

With reference to Suman Kalyanpur, I want to share with my friends a purely personal nostalgia. In my adolescence, in late fifties, I happened to see a semi-mythological, semi-historical movie, ‘Maya Machhinder’ with music directio of Ram Lal Hira Panna (known so because of wearing a diamond in one ear and emerald in another). A song by Suman Kalyanpur in the movie came close to my heart and stays there till date. This one never came in the list of her popular songs and and except those who bought its 78 rpm gramophone record in late fifties or early sixties could never get it as it was included in no EP, LP, cassette or CD. It is not available on You Tube or other music sites either. This song was, ” Saal solahwan laaga, Ladakpan bhaga, chunariya phar-phar udtee jaye” Brittle, as they were, after losing 78 rpm record, I could never hear the song for several decades, and probably this craving would have gone with me, but my friend Kushal Gopalka, Music Lover of Mumbai, dug it from archives of someone and presented me in a CD. I confess my ignorance of the pocedure otherwise I would have uploaded it for my friends of ‘Songs of Yore’.

Can anyone help? August 7, 2012 at 3:14 pm.

I read all the comments and somehow I come to the conclusion that there is a great feeling of fearnes of lata. It is like the most people are afraid to write something negative of her as inthis case that sumanji is better than her. I listen to the song,’to sabse haseen hai dilruba’ from ramu to diwana hai each day maybe at least 60 times still it is like honey to my soul, I can’t have enough of this sweet song.I heard that sadly this film never released, could you give me information of the cast deepa rani and chandru, please? Suresh Maloo September 21, 2012 at 9:49 pm.

At the very outset I beseech apology for my expressions that follow. With reference to the comments of subscribers, I really appreciate their inclination towards Suman Dee.

I humbly feel that the opinions of people are in no way due to fear. It is in the same way that others are fondly attached to Suman Dee. If one thinks that there is some thing negative in Lata Dee, it may be his/her personal opinion. Lata Dee is the pride of the nation for her excellent voice quality and singing capabilities (she may not be holding on to these, of late). For these reasons she remained the first choice of so many Music Composers, we must kindly consider. I personally feel that every one has a role to play in the creation of the Almighty.

And, every one is unique, in some way Suman Dee is different (if not better, for which she was preferred over Lata Dee, for singing so many melodious songs) from Lata Dee. My humble submission, everyone is justified in falling under fan following of a Super-Star, but he/she should better not be so critical about other Stars and their fans, while expressing opinion publicly.

This all is without prejudice, and also not with a view to offending anyone, kindly note. Mukesh Kumar October 1, 2012 at 10:56 pm. Yes, Lataji and Sumanji both these Singers have similar voices, and may be due to some or other reassons Lata got the Lion’s share. Thank God this didn’t happen in case of Sunil Gavaskar & Sachin Tendulkar and they happened to be in different era. But even after having sung so many melodious songs, Suman Kalyanpurji might never got her share for the songs which she had sung, because people may take the song to be sung by Lataji.

Barring from a single song (“BBC”) directly sung by Sumanji is available on the You Tube, you will not even got a single concert or Stage performance of Sumanji’s on the internet. So to many people Suman Kalyanpur is unknown. So the need of the hour is to up-load all the information, concert and each & every moment of Suman Kalyanpuri’s available among us to a common platform of internet.

Justifyably next generation must know who is Suman Kalyanpur. And even at this age why not some daring music director come up and let her sing once again in a new hindi movie. CD October 20, 2012 at 4:45 pm. Very informative article but misses many Suman gems which have since been highlighted by others. Suman sang some wonderful duets with Rafi when they had the rift. Lata was so worried by these hits that she soon made up with Rafi saheb. If the rift had continued a bit longer there is little doubt than Suman Kalyanpur would have become as famous as Lata as she was as cersatile as Lata, if not more.

Lata was also a political person who did not tolerate competition. The way she treated Vani Jairam is proof enough of her vindictive nature.

Arvind November 25, 2012 at 12:25 pm. I appreciate and thank you for the comment “Suman Kalyanpur was also recognised as a great singer in her own right, and not just as a replacement for Lata Mangeshkar” I enjoy both with falling into controversy who is better. This could be felt only when both sing the same song and the person who listens to has the capability to comment upon. Thank God the industry did not have too many singers, else there would too many judgements. You may agree, fan following blocks our vision to appreciate others.

Having said and done all I love the forum that enriches us in so many ways. Let us keep this spirit of loving all, with out prejudices. Sureh Maloo November 26, 2012 at 9:46 am. A few days back I got to watch a TV show by Javed Akhtar. In that show, on S D Burman, Javed Saa’b was all praise for a rare simplicity in a lullaby in Hindi Films.

He observed that mothers of our that era must be great exponents of music, by the standards that the lullabies manifested tunes, compositions, ‘harkats’ and all that only a master can express so fluently that a child would go to sleep. That reference struck me an equally difficult, an extremely high-octave, superbly orchestrated Suman Kalayanpur song – Chand Kanwal Mere Chand Kanwal from Sanjh Aur Savera – Apart from the composition skills of SJ, we listen to a great range that Suman Kalayanpur has rendered in this song.

The scales can be considered even higher for the great male singers like Rafi or Mahendra Kapoor, The song has several references in the discussions to the main article herein. But, the way the song connected me up with that remark by Jaaved Saa’b has compelled me to share my ‘instant’ liking of this song. Thanks for bearing with me.

Sureh Maloo November 28, 2012 at 11:26 am. The comments of Ashok M Vaishnav reminds us of a gem from the treasures of Suman Kalyanpur, and I vouch for her singing capabilities.

But, it fail to add anything to the forum caption is “Suman Kalyanpur outshines Lata Mangeshkar.” The forum is mot about how beatifully she sang. We do not need to remember all her songs, one by one, to compare her with Lata Dee, without bringing out a similar song by Lata Dee, and then coming out with the aspects of singing to discuss them to establish superiority of Suman Dee over Lata Dee. Shri AK, the moderator, may please excuse me for this observation. November 28, 2012 at 12:15 pm. OK, let me, now, add my views a bit further, even at the risk of courting a possible backlash: Film already has songs by Lata Mangeshkar.

So, it is difficult to judge decision of SJ to field Suman Kalyanpur for this song. May be, Lata Mangeshkar was known for her displeasure to sing in very high octaves, so she either may have opted out from the song, and SJ had to fall back upon Suman Kalayanpur. Or maybe, SJ thought that (only) Suman Kalyanpur could really do the justice to the tune.

Of course, there could be a third possibility of song originally would have been planned to be be picturised, not in lead heroine, hence choice of Suman Kalyanpur – as in Aj Hu Na Aaye Balama. November 28, 2012 at 10:53 pm. Mr Suresh Maloo, Mr Ashok Vaishnav I don’t think anyone can seriously suggest that Suman Kalyanpur was superior to Lata Mangeshkar. Lata Mangeshkar is the ultimate.

My somewhat provocative title was with reference to a particular song and a very simlilar song, sung by the two singers, and I found the Suman Kalyanpur’s version superior to Lata Mangeshkar’s. But it has to be understood it is my opinion. It is neither a judgment nor is it assumed that others should share my views. Having said that, as I searched for her songs for this article and came to know of many more from the readers’ comments, my respect for her has gone up manifold.

It is also heartening to see that she has so many earnest and knowledgeable fans. When I started SoY, it was स्वान्तः सुखाय.

Now it has grown into a big family, and we are together discovering, reliving and learning more about songs and the artistes of our great legacy. There never was the intent to pull down anyone, everyone who gave us memorabe songs, is worthy of our respect. Sureh Maloo November 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm. I regret for my unpolished expression.

You had to play the role of mediator unnecessarily. Kindly allow me to reserve my right to be impartial on such debates which lead us to nowhere. I am among the admirers of Suman Dee, but shall never ever try to compare her with Lata Dee, and vice versa. For me, both these celebrities are living legends on the horizon of times.

None stands as competitors to another in my heart. I am fond of good music compositions, and that is all. I will appreciate an email communication (you have my mail id) should you have any thing to accomplish further. December 1, 2012 at 10:15 am. @Shri AKji, Even as Thanks are due, every time, any time and all the the time, for providing invaluable insight to a the hidden gems of the Yesteryear Hindi film songs. Obviously, different people like (or dislike) these songs and do have quite strong views. Airing these divergent views on this platform certainly adds value to the original articles, it is also appreciated that each of the participant manifests restraint in respecting the point of view of the others.

However, You play a perfect moderator in terms of smoothing the rough edges in such ‘lively’ discussions. @ Suresh Maloo Apart form what I have stated in my views here before, I will only a small clarification form side: We are all expressing our views on the subjects that can best be classified as “history’, and, have our own views, more as those who love/ like the subject. By and large,none of us have any professional or commercial interest. I avoid crossing the limits of the rough edges of my personal views, but have been increasingly tested the limits. This has been possible only because of the sagacity of all those who interact on this platform.

Shashika December 2, 2012 at 10:12 am. AK Ji, After I wrote to you,I remembered about another duet of lata and Suman. Film- Gazal-1964 MD-Madan Mohan Lyricist-Sahir L. Song- Unse Nazarein mili aur Hizab aa gaya Singers-lata,Suman and Chorus. HFGK has given a note that ” It seems this song was filmed in the film in the voices of Lata and Minu Purushottam and the same was included in film’s LP also ” (approx. Transalation from original Hindi comment in HFGK). The original duet’s record No.

Is given as N-54715 I tried on You Tube but could not get this duet there. This is for your info.

-Arunkumar Deshmukh January 3, 2013 at 6:44 pm. Pawan, very well said. Suman Kalyanpur does deserve an award worthy of her. Wikipedia mentions that Maharashtra governmnet honoured her with the prestigious Lata Mangeshkar award in 2010.

It is silent on Padma awards, so I am not sure whether she got any or not – I would have to check up on this. This year’s Padma awards list includes Sudha Malhotra. It must be the famous singer. It is a pleasant surprise that someone remembered her after so many years. That gives us hope for Suman Kalyanpur. If a recommendation is put up for her at the right time with citation, through Maharshtra government or some other credible institution or individual, I have no doubt she should figure in Padma Bhushan list. Many in SoY family would know someone in the right quarters who can pursue it.

Let us pursue that to see her name figure prominently in the next awards. Since no one questions the merit of the case, and it is more a case of oversight, I guess this would be more effective than a campaign on social media. N Venkataraman January 28, 2013 at 12:39 pm. Many thanks for the information Venkataraman! I agree with AK that this can be better addressed by a pointed approach to the right people, as it is clearly an oversight.

I join you and all in SoY family, in wishing her a Very Happy Birthday and shall endeavour to seek due recognition for her by writing to media channels and newspapers highlighting her work. I am sure AK you will permit reference of this blog which will be very enlightening, as most her hit/popular songs are assumed to be Lata’s. Secondly, government awards may not be easy to come by, but now we have Filmfare, Stardust, Screen, IFFA etc – at least one of them could be influenced?

It would be worth a spirited effort to see one of these, honouring her in front of millions of TV audience! Shashika January 29, 2013 at 10:21 am. Namaskaar everyone, I am Shashika from S.Africa and now settled in Mumbai for my singing.

I ALWAYS LOVED SUMANJI and wondered what happened to her. There is a song Meri Puja Na Tukrana which is not to be found nowadays which I used to sing in my younger days. I am sad to learn that she has not been duly awarded for her singing and definitely I want to be part of the team that makes sure she gets her due credit. Oh I would love to meet her, she is for me the epitome of Mother Saraswathi. January 29, 2013 at 1:30 pm.

I am an old timer with an uncommon taste of things. I saw movies till 1970 where after nothing was needed as I remain absorbed in this arena. Suman Kalyanpur, Roshan, Madhubala and Sahir are my favorite artists. I am quite emotive about Suman. There is a lot of information on her rivalry with Lata.

But the ladies have refrained from the popular belief. Suman’s voice is humane while I feel Lata sings like a machine without any mistake! You will feel emotions working in Sumans voice. I appreciate this wonderful blog where you will find almost all the under dogs who have fascinated you but otherwise they are not seen much.

I have to request this authoritative and knowledgable blogger to write sections on Bharat Bhushan and Shakila. His forceful writing may bless us with the informaion we have been longing for.

February 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm. Sharmaji, Thanks a lot for your very kind words. By God’s grace and good wishes of people like you. SoY has attracted a large number of very committed and knowledgeable followers.

I entirely agree with you on Ghulam Mohammad. What a coincidence that in my most recent post on Talat Mohammad-Asha Bhsole duets I mentioned about him that he was senior to Naushad in the industry, and getting paid more. Ironically he had to become Naushad’s assistant. It is said that many of Naushad’s famous songs were composed by him, which might be possible.

At least some of Talat Mahmood’s best songs are composed by him. SoY would surely have more on him. It is a huge ocean.

While I have some structure in mind, but by and large I am doing whatever takes my fancy. I am gratified that you want to know about me. I have sent you a mail. Meenu March 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm. Recently i came across by this gem first time Saahir’s pen is supreme as alwayzkhayyam’s tune and sumanji’s voice made it a perfect piece. ”Zindagi zulm sahi, jabar sahi, gham hi sahi Dil ki fariyaad sahi, rooh ka maatam hi sahi Hum ne har haal mein jeene ki kasam khaai hai Ab yahi haal muqaddar hai to shikwa kyon ho Hum saleeqe se nibha denge jo din baaqi hai Chaah ruswa na hui, dard bhi ruswa kyon ho” Kya baat kya baat kya baat Only the genius Saahir can do this magic. What majaz cud do in single song, Saahir has done in every song!!

It’s obvious that lata’s voice and saahir’s words have lifted HFM to a sublime level. Jignesh Kotadia November 21, 2013 at 12:34 am. With due respect SIYAthe difference in singing Mann by Rafi and Suman is more of style and complimenting in a duet. Of course, each singer has his/her limitations and strong points and they tend to render the words to express the right emotions – vis a vis context, to the best of their ability within their limitations. A bit of imperfection and unstable voice timber of SUMAN endeared her to those who root for her.

However, it is nobody’s claim / over claim that she is Better than Lata or Aasha. In fact, each one of thembe that Lata, Aasha, Suman, Sudha Malhotra, Shamshad, Mubarakhad their very own specific attributes.

Ergoas an avid music lover, I rather enjoy the diverse variety that film music presents us. Hope, you will agree. Regards – K R Vaishampayan [alias-KRV] Canasya January 15, 2014 at 5:58 pm. I have not seen the movie.

But the following video suggests that Suman is probably giving playback for the pupil and Rafi for the music teacher. SJ might have instructed Suman accordingly (remember ‘Sawan ka mahina’ from Milan). Language would also be part of Suman’s handicap. Just to illustrate how difficult it is to correctly pronounce words from a language other than mother tongue for even a legendary singer like Rafi listen to ‘Jahan daal daal pe’ from Sikandar-e-azam (MD: Hansraj Behl; Lyrics: Rajendra Krishan). He says ‘Bramha’ twice in the beginning in place of ‘Brahma’! (I like the song though).

Pawan January 15, 2014 at 6:43 pm. I agree with KRV, as the music director decides the variations in rendering the same word/line by male and female singers and not the individuals. They are deliberate and many current and past songs can serve as examples. There is no dispute in who has better voice or talent.

The point is Suman also excelled and was very close to Lata in both. However, the recognition is no where close to that, hence praises are bound to come for a person whose songs are often mistaken as sung by Lata. January 15, 2014 at 10:24 pm. Siya, KR Vaishampayan, Pawan I think it is quite clear no one was trying to suggest Suman Kalyanpur is equal to or better than Lata Mangehskar. Therefore, any averment that she is a lesser singer is unnecessary. The point was, as has been mentioned by many readers, that (i) Her similarity to Lata Mangehskar was remarkable, which was her strength as well as handicap, and (ii) Suman Kalyanpur did not get her due commensurate with her talents. Canasya, I don’t think Ajahun na aye balma has any similarity to Sawan ka mahina.

In the latter song, Sunil Dutt was a serious teacher. Here Mahmood has taken the disguise of the music teacher to befool Shobha Khote’s mother to be near her. Initially, Shobha Khote is also taken in by the disguise, but once she recognises her lover, she also winks and continues the charade.

But this also does not explain the difference in pronunciation of ‘mann’. It is simply a musical detail for composition. You make an interesting point about ‘Brahma’ and ‘Bramha’. I never gave a thought to it, nor would have ever noticed it. The two words, when spoken, are indistinguishable. After uttering these words many times, I find the natural tendency is to pronounce ‘Bramha’. You can try it with other people.

A very common mistake most people do is in pronouncing Sanskrit words ending with a consonant with अकार. For example, सुखाय, हिताय, परित्राणाय etc. In which the last ‘ya’ has to be stressed. Then, complex sandhi can be a nightmare. Interestingly, in French if a word ending with a soft consonant is followed by a word staring with a vowel, while speaking they are joined like a Sanskrit ‘sandhi’ (but not in writing unlike Sanskrit). Mumbaikar8 January 15, 2014 at 11:57 pm.

Dear AK, Thanks for your reply. I think we have no differences what-so-ever and both of us love music with may be different perspectives. As regards ‘pronunciations’ especially of Sanskrit wordsI simply shudder and agree with you.

The North Indians pronounce it ‘under’ correctness while those from the south tend to over pronounce it – like in: LATHA instead of LATAand so on. Remember RISHI KAPOOR wooing the pony with Sanskrit to impress Nitu Singh??? Chanting – ” OM TASAYA VITOOR VARENIUM” Hope, you do remember. Have a good time. Regards – KRV January 16, 2014 at 3:51 pm. It was sheer phase of luck that while searching for more information on forgotten composer Jamal Sen, I came across your blog and fell in love, immediately.

You have rightfully satiated appetite of music connoisseurs & fulfilled a long felt need of such useful information about old songs, singers & composers who have now faded out into oblivion. My sincere salute and kudos to you. I went through few of your articles. I wish, I could read all but it would take time. I read your article on Suman Kalyanpur (SK) and comments thereon only yesterday and noted that this nice article was posted way back in Oct, 2010 with sporadic comments spread over till now. I thought all the loopholes, if there were any, must have been plugged-up by now during the span of last 40 months.

But I feel that some room has been left for me to poke my nose into. Here are some songs which do not get there mention. How about including these sweet melodies which would certainly delight you and readers equally?

Rakesh Srivastava, I am overwhelmed by your generous praise, and awesome additions. Thanks a lot.

The SoY owes a great deal to the knowledgeable and passionate readers, too. The first song in your list Chali jaye ri jeevan ki gaadi does seem to be your great favorite, because you had mentioned it earlier in my post on Kamal Barot, thinking it to be sung by her, and from Rocket Girl. I wish one could find it. Sudhir Kapurji, whom I have referred to help us with Kamal Barot songs, confirms the co-ordinates of the song you have given here. I hope you are able to browse through my other posts.

Some of the songs in your list have appeared on this blog in other posts, some are very rare and not available on YT as of now. Let me go through them, and I would try to post some which are best of the lot. March 13, 2014 at 8:10 am. Rakesh Srivastava, I should thank you again for adding some fabulous songs of Suman Kalyanpur. Some I heard for the first time. Here is the first installment of the songs. I will come back again with more from your list.

They need to be enjoyed at leisure. Ankh mein shokhi lab pe tabassum by Manna Dey and Suman Kalynapur from Reshmi Roomal (1960), music Babul ) Main is masoom chehre ko by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Baghi Shehzada (1964), music Bipin Dutta Rafi giving playback for Kishore Kumar! I had not heard this song before. ) Ye nashili hawa aa raha hai maza by Manna Dey and Suman Kalyanpur from Neeli Aankhein (1962), music Dattaram ) Kahti hai jhuki jhuki nazar by Suman Kalyanpur from Zindagi Aur Khwab (1961), music Dattaram ) Insaaf tera dekha by Suman Kalyanpur from Shama (1961), music Ghulam Mohammad ) Mere mehboob tujhe pyar karun ya na karun by Suman Kalyanpur from Shama ) Yaas ke dar pe jhuka jata hai by Suman Kalyanpur from Shama ) Mehfil mein aap aye jaise ki chand aya by Suman Kalyanpur and Mubarak Begum from Mohabbat Isko Kahte Hain (1965), music Khayyam ) March 14, 2014 at 11:02 am. Rakesh Srivastava, I come back with the second installment from your exhaustive list. I heard them over in YT.

The first song in your list is already in public domain, thanks to your interest, and you have already seen it. About two songs by Rajesh Roshan, YT gives the female singers as Lata Mangeshkar in one case, and Hemlata in the other. You may like to check up on this. From the rest, the ones I found most fascinating I am posting here. Thanks a lot for introducing us to some absolutely songs, many of which I am heard for the first time. Mohe la de chunariya laal by Suman Kalyanpur and Geeta Dutt from Chaandi Ki Deewar (1964), music N Datta Chamke chaand poonam ka by Mukesh and Suman Kalyanpur from Mahasati Behula, music Shivram Zara si baat pyar ki zuban se phisal gayi by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Salaam Memsaab (1961), music Ravi Irada na tha aapse pyar ka by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Aandhi Aur Toofan (1964), music Robin Banerjee Interesting.

Does it sound like Ye wada karo chaand ke saamne from Rajhath? Chaand takta hai idhar by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Dooj Ka Chaand (1964), music Roshan What a sweet Roshan composition! Maine ae jaan-e-wafa tumse mohabbat ki hai by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Bedaag (1965), music Roshan Tere hum O sanam by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Bachpan (1963), music Sardar Malik Tumhein dil se chaha tumhein dil diya hai by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Chaand Aur Suraj (1965), music Salil Chaudhary Tum mard nikaaloge ghoonghat by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Reporter Raju (1962), music S Mohinder Interesting qawwali muqaabla picturised on the comedian Birbal (?) and unknown lady (?), with the lead actors in the audience. There is a short parody of Gham dire mustaqil at 3.o1. Khuli hai ankh magar khwab hai wohi by Suman Kalyanpur from Miyan Biwi Raazi (1960), music SD Burman This is a beautiful SD Burman composition, sung so melodiously by Suman Kalyanpur as a mujra song performed on stage, accompanied by kathak dancers. The tabalchi in drag is gets so excited that he throws off his/her veil and reveals himself as Mehmood. I would classify it as an extremely melodious song with discordant picturisation.

Mera tumhara sath to sadiyon ka sath hai by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Ek Paheli (1971), music Usha Khanna Isn’t this inspired heavily from Ye raat ye fizayein phir aayein ya na aayein from Batwara? Rakesh Srivastava March 14, 2014 at 2:58 pm.

Mumbaikar8, It is never too late to join, especially when you come up with such beautiful songs. #2 Itne bade jahan mein apna bhi koi hota from Dark Street composed by Dattaram is one of her most melodious, and deserved to be mentioned here.

The qawwali Yun miley ki mulaqaat ho na saki (#3) is excellent. In #4, Dil gaya dil gaya from Tilasmi Duniya (1962), music Suresh Talwar, YT mentions Shyam Kumar as the male singer, though I can’t believe that it could be the same Shyam Kumar who sang Tu mera chaand main teri chaandni in Dillagi (1949).

To me the voice sounds more like Rafi. It would need more examination. The last two songs Naina ne dekhe unke main (Maharani Padmini) and Matwala saawan aya (Shri Ganesh) have the usual sweetness of Suman Kalyanpur. April 7, 2014 at 11:59 am.

Thank you for a goldmine of a website. One thing I have noticed that many people rely on youtube for sampling of old songs – I myself perforce have to do so. But one good soul pointed out to me the fault – most videos of old films run faster than the original film – a fact which I had sensed and suspected but did not pinpoint when videos first came out; but now I know it for a surety. It is best to hear old songs from pure audio sources. We can hear the song in its correct speed in Youtube uploads which are based on such audio sources (and not video source). Since then I have been on a re-discovery voyage of old songs.

April 9, 2014 at 5:17 pm. It is the era of internet that you get such a fast response to any query. I was around 17 when I first heard this song played in Rajdhani Express (it was a very melodic cassette containing songs such as ‘Humse na poocho’, ‘Unse pyar ho gaya’ and ‘O naar albeli’-a very rare Geeta no.from ‘Nagpadmini’) I had never heard any of these songs before. I was so enamoured by the sweetness of these songs, that I acquired all but two (‘Meri preet’ and ‘O naar albeli’) over the years. Years passed on but I never lost hope. Thankfully, with the advent of HFGK, I was able to obtain these two songs only after around 35 years of wait. And it is a matter of days now, sometimes only seconds, to listen to a rare no.

Such availability takes away that feeling of anxiety and excitement in waiting, something which belonged to the era we all are nostalgic about. But then this era has its own benefits too, such as me having discovered you. April 16, 2014 at 5:39 pm. It gives me immense pleasure to unearth gems from my collection, songs which must have been popular with the music lovers in their hey days. Sharmaji, And what gems you have presented.

I can’t thank you enough for Jhoom ke piya ki gali. This great favourite of mine had gone completely out of my consciousness. I am hearing it after about four decades.

But I was surprised it sounded so much like Chitragupta’s composition, whereas I don’t think S Mohinder had any connection with him. Jhoom ke piya ki gali ghoom ke khushi mein chali from Jai Bhawani (1961), lyrics GS Nepali, music S Mohinder Have I started imagining similarities? Kateele kateele sounded like Salil Chaudhary to me. Another favourite of mine you have added: Aankh sharmane lagi from Captain Sheroo (1963), lyrics Naqsh Layalpuri, music S Mohiner June 1, 2014 at 11:33 pm.

AK Ji, Thanks for your nice comments. Incidently, I always had the feeling that ‘Jhoom ke piya ki gali’ was composed by Roshan, another great exponent of melody, the tune somehow in my mind always related to the songs, ‘Mero sainya gulabiya ka phool’ from ‘Nayi Umar Ki Nayi Fasal’, ‘Sajan salona maang lo ri koi’ from ‘Dooj Ka Chand’ and ‘Na na na re na na’ from ‘Tajmahal’. Misconceptions sometimes get so rooted in your mindset. Now I’ll mention yet another favourite duet of mine from Guest House, music by Chitragupta, sung by Suman Kalyanpur and Usha Mangeshkar, Nikla hai gora gora chand re sajanwa, kar ke jatan koi aa ja.

I’ll have to sheepishly admit that I was searching this song in your article, Lata with Chitragupta, Suman sounds so much like Lata in the song. Rakesh Srivastava June 2, 2014 at 9:02 pm. Arvindersharma Ji, I am short of words to express my thanks for referring the Jai Bhawani song.This song was very popular in radio era around 1960s and was my favorite too.However with the passage of time, I forgot the words and every thing else about this song(I was in my childhood those days). I could only hum its tune.I am not a good singer so could not express and ask any one to help locate this song when nothing was known except the tune.Just out of curiosity, I opened this song today through your post and lo and behold,it was what I was striving for all through these fifty odd years.Thank you Sharma ji.You have made a dumb speak and express himself.Thank you AK ji and long live the Internet, for helping us do what we do. June 3, 2014 at 12:13 am. Rakesh Srivastava Ji, I am at loss of words after going through your post and can simply thank you for the same.I personally understand what goes through a fellow music lover’s mind when he is unable to trace a song when it is there in his mind and there is no means to catch up with it.

We can simply thank all those great gifted people who created these great melodies, which we are enjoying today. And Rakesh Ji, we must thank AK Ji and his fellow contributions, who painstakingly create such knowledgeable articles for all of us to enjoy and contribute. Regards, Arvinder Sharma July 15, 2014 at 11:38 pm. One more round of Suman Kalyanpur songs. It was to her credit that she could sing classical compositions with ease as she beautifully rendered ‘Choro choro more bainya sanware’ from ‘Miyan Biwi Raazi’ under the baton of SDB.

Some more are as under: Dil tod ke jana hai from ‘Hamari Yaad Aayegi’, music Snehal Bhatkar. Hamari Yaad Aayegi- Dil Todke Jana Hai- Suman Kal: Baar baar gayi re haar mai sakhi ri from ‘Krishnavtar’, music by Suresh Kumar. Krishnavatar- Baar Baar Gayi Re Haar- Suman Kalya: Toone churali mere maathe ki bindiya from ‘Rooplekha’ music Chitragupta. Rooplekha- Tune Churali Meri Mathe Ki Bindiya- Su: Three beautiful solos: Aayi hoon badi door se from ‘Sakhi Robin’, music Robin Bannerjee “AAYI HOON BADI DOOR SE”BY SUMAN KALYANPUR,MUSIC: Ja ja, ja re beimaan from ‘Hercules’, music by N Dutta Hercules- Ja Ja Re Beimaan- Suman Kalyanpur: Itni bedardi se rootha mora baalma from ‘Rooplekha’, music by Chitragupta. ITNI BEDARDI SE ROOTHA MORA BALMA,SUMAN KALYANPU: To my ears, this song brings faint memories of ‘Choro choro more bainya’.

Two beautiful duets with Mukesh: Shama se koi keh de from ‘Jai Bhawani’, music S Mohinder shama se koi kah de.mukesh-suman kalyanpur-jai b: Taaron ki thandi chhainyan from ‘Naag Devta’, music by S N Tripathi, a rare and a very sweet song taron ki chhaiyan.suman kalyanpur-mukesh-qamar j: Seven duets with Rafi Tumhi ne dil mera chheen me from ‘Airmail’, music by Sardul Kwatra, another good composer who enriched the Punjabi film music. When you begin to listen to this song, at once O P Naiyyar comes to mind. But hearing Suman, you get confused how lata could be there in an OPN song. It’s only afterwards that you understand that is is the work of another music director. Tumhi Ne Dil Mera Mohd Rafi Suman Kalyanpur Film: Chand hain taare bhi hain Aur ye tanhai hai from ‘Rooplekha’, music by Chitragupta is another must listen gem by the master. Rooplekha ”’ chand hai tare hain aur ye tanhai h: Meri zindagi tere pyar me hum kahan kahan se guzar gaye from ‘Ji Chahta Hai’, music by Kalyanji Anandji. Meri Zindagi Tere Pyar Mein Mohd Rafi Suman Kalya: Chail chhabeela chokra from ‘Hamari Yaad Aayegi’, music by Snehal Bhatkar.

Film Hamari Yaad Aayegi Year 1961 song Chail Chab: Aate jaate role mujhe chede mujhe baalma from ‘ Ek Sapera Ek Lutera’, music by Usha Khanna Ek Sapera Ek Lutera – Title Song: Sainya dekh dekh dekh from ‘Police Detective’, music by Chitragupta. Mohd Rafi & Suman Kalyanpur -Saiyan Dekh Dekh Dek: Tera muskurana bana ek fasana from ‘Pyar Ki Daastan’, music by Nashad Pyaar Ki Dastaan – Tera Muskurana Bana Ek Fasaana: And finally, a duet with Mahendra Kapoor from ‘Umrqaid’, music by Iqbal Qureshi, Dil ka fasana “DIL KA FASANA KOYI NA JANA APNI KUSHI ME”BY SUMA: July 18, 2014 at 10:32 pm.

Sharmaji, Thanks a lot for this great list. Shama se koi kah de is my special favourite.

Tumhi ne dil mera chheen ke, OP Nayyar using ‘Lata’ is an excellent song. Other goods songs are Dil ka fasana, Meri zindagi tere pyar mein, Taaron ki thandi chhainya. Do you think the last song reminds us of Badaraa ki chhaon taley by Mukesh and Suraiya from Lekh (1950), music Krishna Dayal?

Chhail chhabeela chhokra is so different from other songs from Hamaari Yaad Aayegi, and so very unlike Snehal Bhatkar. Rakesh Srivastava July 18, 2014 at 11:41 pm. AK Ji, Thanks for your kind words of appreciation. Indeed, Taaron ki thandi chhainyan and Badra ki chain taley have a striking similarly and both of them are lovely songs. Replying to my last post, your remark regarding the Suman solo song ‘ Kateele kateele nasheele nasheele’ reminding you of a Salil Chaudhary song, made me think of a song set to a similar mood. ‘Jhuk jhuk jhuk jhoom ghata chayi re’ from ‘Chardiwari’, sung by lata, to my ears, quite resembles the song.

Rakesh Srivastava Ji, Once again, thanks for your pat on the back. I have really cherished your earlier remarks and once again, I am thanking you for your kind words. Avinash August 30, 2014 at 9:53 am.

Dear AKji, Sorry for coming in so late. I discovered your blog, only last moth, so I have a lot of catching up to do. Very nice article & I agree with you that Suman’s song is a shade better than Lata’s. This again reconfirms my view that the quality of tune is the most important aspect of the song. Lata is a peerless singer, still Suman’s song sounds slightly better due to superior tune by Snehal Bhatkar.

I also discovered many unheard songs of Sumanji thanks to the links provided by you & the commentors. I am a maharashtrian & so I have heard many Marathi songs rendered by Lata, Asha & Suman since childhood. So I am posting link to one superb Marathi song sung by Sumanji for a film “Putra Vhava Aisa” –. I am sure you will enjoy it. Interestingly, the music composer of this song Vasant Prabhu was a big fan of Lata & Asha, but due to the insistence of the producer took Suman for this song & in my opinion, Sumanji has done full justice to the song. There is so much similarity in the voices of Lata & Suman that many times it is difficult to guess who is the singer.

My usual test is that, if a question comes to your mind that “Is this Lata singing?” then the chances are that it’s a Suman song, because in case of a Lata song, generally your mind does not ask this question, you just know it’s Lata singing. Also just for your information, this movie also had a very beautiful song sung by Talat Mehmood. I am posting the link of that song also –. I am sure you will like it. April 10, 2015 at 6:45 pm.

Mumbaikar8; Here is rarest of the rare sweet song by Suman kalyanpur from the movie Mangu [1954 ]. This is her First song when she was hardly 17 years old. The MD is Mohd Shaffi who composed two songs for the film, the rest were composed by O.P.Nayyar.

Suman, in this song,sings in a very low tone that beautifully blend with the lyrics and the fine composition. This song was stated to be earlier offered to Lata ji who on her own recommended it to the new comer suman. If this is a correct statement then it is a history.

The song is.Koi pukare dhire se. Jignesh Kotadia December 7, 2015 at 12:15 am.

Ohh what a wonderful song this is KSBhatiaji!!! Great Composition by Md. Shafi superbly sung by the teenager Sumanji.a soothing melody. Aisa lagta hai sunta hi rahu!! “Koi pukaare dheere se tujhe, aankhon ke taare dil ke sahaare” an available very good audio quality works here. If an unheard song has a good audio on YT then it needs just a single click on it’s link.

Btw i had visited my native Gondal last month in Diwali vacation and fortunately attended an ohfm mehfil with some persons of my dad’s age. One of them had sung a beautiful song of Sumanji, i liked it very much at once. It is from BLACK PRINCE. Nigaahen na phero chale jaayenge hum Magar yaad rakhna ke yaad aayenge hum Later i searched it in this post and found it is mentioned in comments 55 and 56 by Mr. Bhagwan Thavrani and Akji. Who was DULAL SEN?? Bro of Jamal sen?

Any other film of him? Black Prince released or not?? Akji, Arunji, Bhatiaji? Jignesh Kotadia December 7, 2015 at 12:30 am.

Jignesh kotadia ji; Thanks for liking the Suman kalyanpur song.Koi pukaare dheere se.from Mangu. The same happened to me. I kept on listening this lovely song. God knows how many times. Its just a case of perfect Ten in each department of the composition. I am not sure even this movie was ever released. There is one movie of the same name as Mangu Dada.

I don’t know wheather this one is the same movie [ mangu ]. The other song.Nigahen na pheroby Suman ji is another beautiful song which I have listened quite a number of times over radio during mid 60s or so. This composition is also by a less known MD. As this was quite a popular song during that period, it is my guess that the movie [Black Prince ] might have seen the day.

Here is the song ksbhatia December 7, 2015 at 7:24 pm. AKji,Jignesh Kotadia ji, mumbaikar8; Continuing with the sweet songs of Suman ji; here are a few more. Naina na dekhe unke nain.Maharani Padmini[1964].Sardar Malik 2.

Tu kahan main kahan.Vazir E Azam.Robin Banerji 3. Dekho re aya mausam suhana.Sakhi Robin Robin Chaterjee While above two songs are new to me, the third one I have heard many times over the radio era and has niched a special place in my heart. The song carries a rustic smell of the good earth as you listen to again and again. Sudha Malohtra ably support Suman ji in this duet.

It is noteworthy to find such songs composed by little known MDs. It will be worth a gold if a separate blog is devoted on ” Gems of the little known MDs.” Jignesh Kotadia December 7, 2015 at 11:42 pm. Arvinder Sharma; Good to see you at this site after a long gap. In fact you have contributed the most of Suman ji’s songs and duets on this site.

You had already covered the Mangu song; may be it was not available on Y T at that moment of time. The two songs posted by you are beautiful. The second song was very popular in the mid 60s. Specially in punjabi circlethat was played during Ladies sangeet, a day before wedding ceremony [ with dholak and chamach / spoon ], dancing on its rhythm and beats. Ravindra Kelkar December 11, 2015 at 12:23 am.

KS Bhatiyaji & other Suman fans, Mangu & Mangu Dada are two different movies. The movie Mangu was released, late 1954 & Mangu Dada was released in 1970. Both were Sheikh Mukhtar productions. Also, Robin Bannerji is the correct name of the MD. Robin Chatterji was a sound recordist.

Now coming to the widely held belief that the Mangu song is Suman Kalyanpurkar’s first song. It is true that this was the first song Suman sang independently & got the credit for it. But was it her first hindi film song? I will like to share an interesting information. In Aarpaar, Suman sang along with Rafi & Geeta in the song Mohabbat Kar Lo Jee Bhar Lo. Here is the link. Actually it’s not a duet but a triad.

Suman sang the second stanza – “Mohhabat Kya Hai Suno Ji Hum Se Sub Kuchh Hai Usi Ke Dum Se”. Also, from 2nd stanza onwards “Shikayat Kar Lo Jee Bhar Lo” is sung together by Geeta & Suman. This is the only song Suman sang for OP. So you get here a glimpse of how Lata would have sounded under OP.

Please note that Aarpaar was released in 1954 & the success of its music possibly resulted in OP replacing M Shafi as a MD for Mangu. Mangu was released some 6 to 8 months after Aarpaar.

So I believe, the Aarpaar song is the first Hindi film song by Suman. Unfortunately, the Aarpaar record does not mention Suman’s name in the credits for this song, so this fact remained unknown. OP himself told us that Suman’s parents didn’t want her name to be published on the record for some reasons, possibly because when this song was recorded she was a school going girl.

Ksbhatia December 11, 2015 at 7:48 pm. That Sumanji had great talent is undisputed. Her songs with almost all reputed music directors are testimony. I like songs from “sabak ” Woh jidar dekh rahe hain and Barkha Bairan.

Also her marathi songs are really very sweet. Actress sulochana’s song from marathi movie “Annapurna” on ganeshji is very nice. Bhajans like Keshava Madhava are mesmerising. We have hearts big enough Lataji,Ashaji and Sumanji but also Geeta duttji or Shamshad Begum and Sudha Malhotra to name some who have followed to enthrall us. May 1, 2017 at 12:20 pm.